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AugFC

aka Steven James Urkel DeWitt

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  • I live in the Zone, Pripyat, Ukraine
  • My occupation is solving crimes
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  • Hi, I was interested in this article but it was deleted by you, could you clarify why it was deleted? "Irrelevant" doesn't really help.

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    • After some consensus, we deleted it; it was basically one of two prototypes for the Type 11 machine gun; we'll get some information back up onto the actual Type 11 article itself since in all reality it's just a Type 11 with a barrel shroud.

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    • It was an article about a pre-production version of the Type 11 LMG which was, for all intents and purposes, exactly the same gun. It didn't have much information that wasn't already covered on our Type 11 page.

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  • What did i do thats wrong?

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    Grunty89
    Grunty89 closed this thread because:
    Case closed.
    22:55, October 4, 2019
  • I'm looking for more information on the M2 from ATC(SN: 005 specifically) not the M2A. Do you know anything about production numbers or have any links to resources. The following two links are all I could find.

    http://www.dndguns.com/marylin_chambers_smgs.htm

    https://guns.fandom.com/wiki/ATC_Firefly

    You added the only picture of the firearm to the gun wiki so I was hoping you could help me. Any info would be appreciated. 

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    • Hi,

      I'm not entirely sure of the difference between the M2 and the M2A - I know these guns as the Firefly (short-barreled submachine gun) and the Firefly II (long-barreled semi-auto carbine). I assume you are referring to the SMG version?

      I can tell you that the production figures for the Firefly SMG totalled at 5 units, so SN 005 would be the final model. I am not sure how many of the long-barreled carbines were made, but presumably very few.

      Firefly Carbine
      Here are some additional photographs of the Firefly-series guns:


      Firefly 2



      Firefly SMG
       If you have any other questions I'll do my best to give you the info I have at hand
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    • Thanks so much for the help. Here are some pics for ya. It says M2 instead of M2A but otherwise looks more like the Firefly than the Firefly ll. Gues it'll just have to be fired to tell difinitively.

      Markings - https://imgur.com/gallery/hYYkXmC

      Side views - https://imgur.com/gallery/auFk0cJ/comment/1718625859

      https://imgur.com/JNL0B4c 

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    • That is a very impressive find! I think you'd need to take the gun apart or shoot it to tell whether it's a semi-auto or SMG but either way this gun is incredibly rare.

      Information on these guns is very scarce, but here are some pages you might find useful:

      https://imgur.com/a/V1qBC4G 

      Hope this helps.

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  • Not to be funny, i want to warn readers the M16A3 is not a official M16 variant because the fully automatic M16A2 is commonly called M16A3. There are 4 official M16 variants including M16, M16A1, M16A2 and M16A4.

    Imfdb has this policy on M16s

    In the real world, the fully automatic version of the M16A2 is known as the M16A3, however, because nearly all movie "M16A2s" fire full automatic, it is not IMFDB policy to designate these rifles as "M16A3s" when identifying them in movies, since in nearly all cases they are intended to pass for M16A2s.

    http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/M16_rifle_series

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    • IMFDB's rules are irrelevant here, we cover real-world topics only.

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    • Turzy310 wrote: Not to be funny, i want to warn readers the M16A3 is not a official M16 variant because the fully automatic M16A2 is commonly called M16A3. There are 4 official M16 variants including M16, M16A1, M16A2 and M16A4.

      Imfdb has this policy on M16s

      In the real world, the fully automatic version of the M16A2 is known as the M16A3, however, because nearly all movie "M16A2s" fire full automatic, it is not IMFDB policy to designate these rifles as "M16A3s" when identifying them in movies, since in nearly all cases they are intended to pass for M16A2s.

      http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/M16_rifle_series

      Also, how on earth do you think that IMFDB's policy means that the M16A3 is "unofficial"? It has nothing to do with this. That note is present there to prevent users from identifying M16s as A3s just because they're shown as full-auto in movies. Real M16A3s were mainly issued to US Navy SEALs and Seabees, and are almost unlikely to be seen in movies, unlike the M16A2, which is often seen converted to full-auto in movies.

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    • The first M16A3s (Colt Model 901) literally were just M16A2s converted to full-auto, right down to the "M16A2" markings on the receiver, so being an M16A2 converted for automatic fire doesn't necessarily not make it an M16A3. The flat-top M16A3 didn't come about until later.

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  • This article here may be from a few months ago but on the patents it looks as if they are looking into a rotating bolt delayed blowback for its operation to handle gas pressures of hypervelocity ammo. What do you think?

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  • What specifically makes you think that it's a Pakistani AKMS? It clearly has a smooth receiver cover, an RPK-type rivet pattern in front of the dimples, a solid trunnion, holes in the gas tube, an older AK-pattern gas block, and what most definitely appears to be a hooded front sight like the Type 56, none of which are characteristics of the AKM/AKMS (which, from what I've searched, apply to the the Pakistani clones as well).

    Also, there's this, which you created in the past (it was temporarily merged with the AK page later). You might have noticed that I changed the info on the current RPK page, since the image is not that of an actual RPKS-74 (which is just a folding stock variant of the RPK-74), although I assume that it was an artifact of when googling you could find the specific image being labeled "RPK-74S" (is it even an alternate designation of the PM md. 93 or something?)

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    • The book I scanned the image in from specifies that it's a Pakistani model. It is also listed as such in the Royal Armouries collection.

      Pakistan uses the Type 56 so it's no surprise that their domestically-made Kalashnikov clones borrow traits from the T56.

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    • What was mainly weird to me is why it was referred to as "AKMS". But if that's how they called it then fine. And by your lack of comment on the RPK issue, I assume you're fine with keeping the image labeled as md. 93?

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    • I can't remember where the RPKS-74 name came from exactly, but I trust that the PM md.63 designation is correct. I don't know enough about RPK variants to comment.

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  • I'm pretty sure most people know which country we're talking about if we just say "United States."

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    • Sure, but it's about consistency. Besides, it really doesn't take much effort to write "of America" in the infobox.

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    • Sorry to get into the conversation, I'm not from the United States. I'm just saying that anyone understands the terms "United States", adding "from America" or the initials "USA". They are exactly the same. 

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    • To be honest, there are actually 3 americas. North America, Central America (and the Caribbean) and South America (and the Falkland Islands).

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  • The citation here:

    https://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/manuals/Madsen%20Machine%20Rifle%20Main%20Characteristics.pdf

    Is an evaluation which impies .303 Madsens can be purchsed directly from DRS, even though the report is dated a good 13 years after Rexer closed down.

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      It would appear you're right, I just checked a back issue of Small Arms Profile and found reference to the Madsen in .303.

      However it is worth noting that these were built only for trial purposes and I have not been able to find data that indicates they ever saw any sales.

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  • Hey there AugFC,

    I was wondering why the page I added, Targets4Free was deleted?

    I feel it's a valuable resource for the gun community / knowledgebase for those looking for that kind of website. 

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    • Because it was essentially an advertisement, and we don't make articles about other websites.

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    • I mean isn't every other article about other organizations? Wikis are supposed to be knowledge bases, right?

      But I do understand. Is there any way it could go back up, so long as I'm able to make it not as "shilly"?

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    • XtremeConditions wrote: I mean isn't every other article about other organizations? Wikis are supposed to be knowledge bases, right?

      But I do understand. Is there any way it could go back up, so long as I'm able to make it not as "shilly"?

      While yes, we do cover other organizations, we don't normally cover organizations of that type. Besides, I highly doubt people will be looking for organizations of this type on this Wiki; they'll most likely be looking for companies which manufacture actual guns and similar products and not companies manufacturing, well, targets.

      This comes from editing experience and whatever insights I've seen on this Wiki for the last couple of years. Just my two cents.

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    • Right, sure, I totally understand. Well, thanks for letting me say my piece. 

      Would you happen to know any other place where it would be more suitable, just out of curiosity? The many "directories" have been close to useless in my experience. 

      Just happen to be having issues getting off the ground. Thanks for your time!

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  • hi friend

    i looking for 

    i m an artist i like make an object in ceramic

    some photo or tecnical plan of

    submachine of italian fascist 

    just like Isotta Fraschini Mod. Albertini

    or

    FNAB-43

    TZ-45

    my email

    bob.desnos@gmail.com



    thanks

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